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]]> Comment on Defining Terms: Orthodoxy by Wayne Hatcher http://arator.wordpress.com/2007/01/06/defining-terms-orthodoxy/#comment-3 Wayne Hatcher Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:38:25 +0000 http://arator.wordpress.com/2007/01/06/defining-terms-orthodoxy/#comment-3 Dear Dr. Yarnell, Thank you for your comment. I hope we can clear up our misunderstanding. I really would like to know your position. I do appreciate you taking at least part of the blame in my missing the point. I did feel that your comments on The Great Divide were a bit evasive and vague. May I ask, in what sense were you using the word orthodoxy; the broad, general sense; or the more narrow, theological, creedal sense? I'm not sure what you mean by the recent proposals for "theological triage". There have been many proposals since Dr. Mohler first introduced the phrase last July. If I read you correctly, this is a theological issue that needs to be addressed of the long view. The immediate issue needing attention, however, is over the encroachment upon the Baptist Faith and Message 2000 by the IMB policies on baptism and private prayer language. Isn't a working "triage" in place in the Baptist Faith and Message 2000? Although not clearly differentiated, both primary and secondary doctrines are laid out within its pages, and should serve us in guiding Southern Baptists in faith and practice, including IMB appointment of missionaries. I find it odd that its predecessor served us well for nearly forty years, and yet after less than a decade this current Faith and Message needs augmentation, at least as concerns IMB appointment of missionaries. The only serious proposal that I am aware of by the dissenters is the proposal to let the Baptist Faith and Message 2000 stand alone as a guide for Southern Baptists, and the IMB, or if it is found lacking, have it amended at the next convention to better reflect the beliefs of all Southern Baptists. I look forward to your further comments on this issue, as I feel you have much to contribute. You don't seem to be an unreasonable man, just a bit hard to tie down. In Christ, Wayne Hatcher Dear Dr. Yarnell,
Thank you for your comment. I hope we can clear up our misunderstanding. I really would like to know your position. I do appreciate you taking at least part of the blame in my missing the point. I did feel that your comments on The Great Divide were a bit evasive and vague. May I ask, in what sense were you using the word orthodoxy; the broad, general sense; or the more narrow, theological, creedal sense?

I’m not sure what you mean by the recent proposals for “theological triage”. There have been many proposals since Dr. Mohler first introduced the phrase last July. If I read you correctly, this is a theological issue that needs to be addressed of the long view. The immediate issue needing attention, however, is over the encroachment upon the Baptist Faith and Message 2000 by the IMB policies on baptism and private prayer language. Isn’t a working “triage” in place in the Baptist Faith and Message 2000? Although not clearly differentiated, both primary and secondary doctrines are laid out within its pages, and should serve us in guiding Southern Baptists in faith and practice, including IMB appointment of missionaries. I find it odd that its predecessor served us well for nearly forty years, and yet after less than a decade this current Faith and Message needs augmentation, at least as concerns IMB appointment of missionaries. The only serious proposal that I am aware of by the dissenters is the proposal to let the Baptist Faith and Message 2000 stand alone as a guide for Southern Baptists, and the IMB, or if it is found lacking, have it amended at the next convention to better reflect the beliefs of all Southern Baptists.

I look forward to your further comments on this issue, as I feel you have much to contribute. You don’t seem to be an unreasonable man, just a bit hard to tie down.

In Christ,
Wayne Hatcher

]]> Comment on Defining Terms: Orthodoxy by Malcolm Yarnell http://arator.wordpress.com/2007/01/06/defining-terms-orthodoxy/#comment-2 Malcolm Yarnell Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:13:38 +0000 http://arator.wordpress.com/2007/01/06/defining-terms-orthodoxy/#comment-2 Dear Wayne, Thank you for this thoughtful post. Honestly, you apparently missed the point I made about theological discrimination, which forms the basis of your critique. This is probably my fault, as I did not want to make a big deal about it. However, this is a theological issue that needs clarification. So let me blunt. The proposals recently put forward for "theological triage" lack coherency and applicability. The idea is fine in principle, but nobody has yet to offer any system worthy of agreement by all Southern Baptists. In Christ, Malcolm Dear Wayne,

Thank you for this thoughtful post. Honestly, you apparently missed the point I made about theological discrimination, which forms the basis of your critique. This is probably my fault, as I did not want to make a big deal about it. However, this is a theological issue that needs clarification.

So let me blunt. The proposals recently put forward for “theological triage” lack coherency and applicability. The idea is fine in principle, but nobody has yet to offer any system worthy of agreement by all Southern Baptists.

In Christ,
Malcolm

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